Presbyterian Voices for Justice 

NOTE:  This site is slowly being retired. 
Click here
for our new official website: pv4j.org

Welcome to news and networking for progressive Presbyterians 

Home page Marriage Equality Global & Social concerns    
News of the PC(USA) Immigrant rights Israel & Palestine
U S Politics, 2010-11 Inclusive ordination Wars in Iraq & Afghanistan
Occupy Wall Street The Economic Crisis Other churches, other faiths
    About us         Join us! Health Care Reform Archive
Just for fun Confronting torture Notes from your WebWeaver

What's Where

Our reports about the 219th General Assembly, July 2010

ABOUT US

The Winter 2011 issue of
Network News
is posted here
- in Adobe PDF format.

Click here for earlier issues
Adobe PDF  Click here to download (free!) Adobe Reader software to view this and all PDF files.

News of Presbyterian Voices for Justice
How to join us

CONNECTIONS

Coming events calendar 

Do you want to announce an event?
Please send a note!
Food for the spirit
Book notes

Go to  Amazon.com

LINKS

NEWS of the Presbyterian Church

Got news??
Send us a note!
Social and global concerns
The U.S. political scene, 2010-11
The Middle East conflict
Uprising in Egypt
The economic crisis
Health care reform
Working for inclusive ordination
Peacemaking & international concerns
The Wars in Iraq & Afghanistan
Israel, Palestine, and Gaza
U. S. Politics
Election 2008
Economic justice
Fair Food Campaign
Labor rights
Women's Concerns
Sexual justice
Marriage Equality
Caring for the environment
Immigrant rights
Racial concerns
Church & State
The death penalty
The media
OTHER CHURCHES, OTHER FAITHS
Do you want regular e-mail updates when stories are added to our web site?
Just send a note!
The WebWeaver's Space
ARCHIVES
JUST FOR FUN
Want books?
Search Now:

 

Doug Ottati's theological musings

Theological Musings

Why We Shouldn't Wait

by Douglas F. Ottati

Professor of Theology at Union Seminary/PSCE in Richmond, VA

[12-5-03]

This essay has generated many interesting comments.
Click here for the first ones,
and then check out the second wave,
and now the third!

We'd appreciate hearing your comments on this paper, and if you're willing, we'll post them here.
Just send a note!

We (the PCUSA) shouldn't wait to ordain called and qualified gays and lesbians to all offices of the church, and to endorse same sex unions and / or gay marriages between persons committed to a loving relationship of mutual help and care. Here's an outline of the reasons why.

First, a strong (and to many minds convincing) argument can be made that draws on a variety of sources and has considerable biblical support. The argument centers on the typically Protestant and biblically well attested conviction that we belong to the God of grace and that, therefore, we have little reason to exclude either ourselves or anyone else from the scope of redemption. But it also includes at least the following additional elements.

bulletJesus Christ discloses the God of grace, and a church that acknowledges a gracious God will endeavor to be capacious rather than exclusionary. It will understand itself primarily as a collection of wayward but graced sinners, a community of beneficiaries who, in response to the disarming and assuring knowledge that God is gracious, try to make as faithful and therefore as inclusive a witness as they can. Indeed, such a church will also suspect that exclusive communities often reflect the sorts of constricted and defensive preferences, loyalties, tendencies and commitments that characterize human corruption.
 
bulletBiblically supported understandings of equity indicate that it is unjust to treat people unfairly. But this is precisely what the church does when it excludes from ordained leadership a particular class of called and qualified members. Especially in a church where all other members may be considered for positions of ordained leadership, the exclusion of gays and lesbians makes for (at best) a second class or halfway membership.
 
bulletMarriage and family should be understood, first and foremost, as covenantal relationships and communities of love, responsibility, and care. These intimate and companionate partnerships entail mutual duties and responsibilities, among them fidelity, respect, and the willingness to welcome and to care for children should a couple be so blessed. But whether or not a couple is able to have children is not and has never been the determinative criterion. There have always been some married partners who do not have children, and there have always been some partnerships that result in children but nevertheless fail as genuinely mutual, loving, and responsible covenants. Of course, to affirm covenantal relationships of mutual love, responsibility, and care is not to endorse every imaginable gay and lesbian relationship, any more than it is to endorse every imaginable heterosexual relationship. (Those who disapprove of this "companionate" view, might direct their complaints at Puritans, such as William Perkins and Richard Baxter, who did much to develop the idea and to revise earlier, medieval conceptions that sometimes centered more directly on procreation.)
 
bulletEmbodied sexuality is a feature of God's good creation, although this does not mean that all sexual activity is appropriate. The question of what is natural takes on a measure of importance in this regard because we believe that God is creator and governor. However, a variety of evidence may count for making a judgment about what constitutes natural sexual behavior. Among the resources to which one may appeal are studies of the sexual behaviors of human societies and populations, as well as comparative studies of the behaviors of other animal species. One may also appeal to philosophical and literary perspectives. In any case, it is not immediately apparent (as is sometimes rather rashly and Aristotelianly assumed) that what renders a sexual act natural is simply the possibility that it may result in offspring. Indeed, were this the sole criterion, one would have to conclude that a good deal of married heterosexual sex, especially among somewhat older couples, is unnatural. Neither is it immediately apparent that there is only one function of the sexual organs. One might rather conclude that sexual activity among humans has a variety of purposes and / or functions, including procreation but also companionship, gratification, and play. Again, we sometimes are less likely to regard sexual orientations as "unnatural" if we believe that they flow from biological and psychological forces that individuals cannot easily alter at will. Without trying here to sort through the (somewhat ambiguous) evidences having to do with hormonal configurations, we may at least observe this. The fundamental experience of most persons most of the time, is that their sexual orientations befall them. One's sexuality (as seemed apparent to me as well as to many of my adolescent friends in northern New Jersey circa 1966) is not primarily the product of rational deliberation. To a significant extent and degree, it seems a rather nonnegotiable dimension of who one is.

This is a good place to register a second major point. Some passages in the Bible refer to homosexual practices and behavior. All are negative, and they cannot summarily be dismissed. However, in the judgment of many scholars, at least some of these passages do not refer to the homosexual practices we have in mind here, i.e., committed relationships between consenting adults. Some associate homosexual relations rather closely with the prohibited religious practices of other peoples, e.g., Leviticus 18:22, 20:13. When it comes to the story of Sodom in Genesis 19, consider whether the behavior of the men of the city would have been significantly improved had they demanded that Lot hand over two female visitors. Perhaps the real sin of Sodom was violence and inhospitality.

Even so, there is Romans 1, where Paul implies a different understanding of what is natural than the one I have suggested. According to Joseph Fitzmyer, the Apostle assumes that there is essentially one natural function of the sexual organs themselves, namely the expression of love between a man and a woman for the procreation of children. Paul regards homosexual conduct as a "misuse of the natural procreative faculty" that is associated with idolatry and, while he may not have in mind precisely the same practices that we do, his remarks are unequivocal.

For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons, the due penalty for their error (Rom. 1:26-27).

How do we deal with this?

In the final analysis, I think, we can only appeal to theological themes and ideas that command broad biblical support (e.g., the conviction that the God of Jesus Christ is the God of grace) as elements of an overall argument to endorse practices that at least one biblical passage opposes. It seems important to point out, however, that somewhat similar arguments have been tried before. Consider John Calvin's reasons in favor of lending money at (limited rates of) interest despite his recognition of specific biblical prohibitions. Consider, too, that many biblical passages imply possible religious sanctions for "total war," ethnic cleansing, and genocide, e.g., Joshua, while more than a few theologians and churches have chosen instead to devise biblically supported arguments in favor of "just" limitations in the conduct of war.

Third, to understand ordination as we Presbyterians do, and then deny it to a class of persons - perhaps on the specious grounds that the great God of glory and grace "cannot" call them - is to exclude, reject, and hurt persons of good faith and commitment. Over the years, I have witnessed the church's rejection of the considerable gifts and contributions of gay and lesbian seminarians, professors, ministers, teachers, elders, and deacons. The cost in lost talents to the church has been significant, but the costs to those persons whose gifts and contributions have been spurned has been cruelly and extraordinarily high. (Quite rightly, I think, the rejection is received, in effect, as an invitation to leave.) Now, it may be that a theological argument can be constructed for keeping in place policies and procedures that make for this measure of suffering and hurt. But, as these practices appear not to accord with the rule of love, the arguments that sustain them would have to be exceptionally strong indeed. If there is any doubt (in this instance anyway) it would seem better to err on the side of love.

Again, to refuse to endorse same sex relationships is to refuse them the measure of social acceptance and recognition that heterosexual relationships enjoy. Such acceptance and recognition helps to strengthen and support relationships of fidelity and mutual responsibility. (Think, for example, what it can mean for a man or a woman to be joined in matrimony before a community of family and friends.) To withhold it is (in effect and unChristianly) to discourage (or at least fail to support) impulses toward fidelity, responsibility, and mutual care among a significant portion of the population.

Finally, some Presbyterians who largely agree with the points I have made here nevertheless refrain from pressing the issue for fear that the church may split. (For a tense circumstance that may be cited by people on all sides, see the current strife among Episcopalians over the ordination of Bishop Robinson.) As I have already indicated above, the current stance of the Presbyterian Church (USA) can only be maintained at a very high, continuing, painful, and cruel cost to a particular group of persons. At such a cost, it is at least theologically questionable to uphold the visible unity of a particular denomination. Yes, the unity of the church is a considerable value. It points to one Lord and one baptism. Moreover, when people and groups join together in Christ despite important differences and even conflicts, they testify to the possibility of a loyalty and a witness that cross barriers and boundaries in order to make for reconciliation, new community, and more abundant life. As a professor in a Presbyterian seminary, I am also keenly aware that any significant split or diminishment would pose considerable practical and financial risks to many of this denomination's most important institutions and involvements. Even so, no Protestant can value the visible unity of the church above all else. To do so, of course would be to turn one's back on the principle of the Reformation itself, and also to turn the church into an idol. The fundamental question is whether the church truly witnesses to the gospel of grace.

 

We'd appreciate hearing your comments on this paper, and if you're willing, we'll post them here.
Just send a note!

 

If you like what you find here,
we hope you'll help us keep Voices for Justice going ... and growing!

Please consider making a special contribution -- large or small -- to help us continue and improve this service.

Click here to send a gift online, using your credit card, through PayPal.

Or send your check, made out to "Presbyterian Voices for Justice" and marked "web site," to our PVJ Treasurer:

Darcy Hawk
4007 Gibsonia Road
Gibsonia, PA  15044-8312

 

Some blogs worth visiting

PVJ's Facebook page

Mitch Trigger, PVJ's Secretary/Communicator, has created a Facebook page where Witherspoon members and others can gather to exchange news and views. Mitch and a few others have posted bits of news, both personal and organizational. But there’s room for more!

You can post your own news and views, or initiate a conversation about a topic of interest to you.

 

Voices of Sophia blog

Heather Reichgott, who has created this new blog for Voices of Sophia, introduces it:

After fifteen years of scholarship and activism, Voices of Sophia presents a blog. Here, we present the voices of feminist theologians of all stripes: scholars, clergy, students, exiles, missionaries, workers, thinkers, artists, lovers and devotees, from many parts of the world, all children of the God in whose image women are made. .... This blog seeks to glorify God through prayer, work, art, and intellectual reflection. Through articles and ensuing discussion we hope to become an active and thoughtful community.

 

John Harris’ Summit to Shore blogspot

Theological and philosophical reflections on everything between summit to shore, including kayaking, climbing, religion, spirituality, philosophy, theology, politics, culture, travel, The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), New York City and the Queens neighborhood of Ridgewood by a progressive New York City Presbyterian Pastor. John is a former member of the Witherspoon board, and is designated pastor of North Presbyterian Church in Flushing, NY.

 

John Shuck’s Shuck and Jive

A Presbyterian minister, currently serving as pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Elizabethton, Tenn., blogs about spirituality, culture, religion (both organized and disorganized), life, evolution, literature, Jesus, and lightening up.

 

Got more blogs to recommend?

Please send a note, and we'll see what we can do!

 

To top

© 2012 by Presbyterian Voices for Justice.  All material on this site is the responsibility of the WebWeaver unless other sources are acknowledged.  Unless otherwise noted, material on this site may be copied for personal use and sharing in small groups.  For permission to reproduce material for wider publication, please contact the WebWeaver, Doug King.  Any material reached by links on this site is outside the control and responsibility of the WebWeaver and Presbyterian Voices for Justice.  Questions or comments?  Please send a note!