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Food for reflection and discernment on moving to a more welcoming church
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Yes on Ordination Amendment O8-B!
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[10-30-08]

Answering God's Call To Serve

More Light Presbyterians rejoices in how God's spirit has moved the 218th General Assembly to heal the divisions in our church with the passage of the Ordination Overture 08-B. As we enter this period of dialogue and discernment, MLP will be organizing an educational campaign in partnership with friends from across our denomination.

Proposed text of the new G-6.0106b:

Those who are called to ordained service in the church, by their assent to the constitutional questions for ordination and installation (W-4.4003), pledge themselves to live lives obedient to Jesus Christ the Head of the Church, striving to follow where he leads through the witness of the Scriptures, and to understand the Scriptures through the instruction of the Confessions. In so doing, they declare their fidelity to the standards of the Church. Each governing body charged with examination for ordination and/or installation (G-14.0240 and G-14.0450) establishes the candidate's sincere efforts to adhere to these standards.

This amendment restores constitutional language to the standards for ordination. It places its emphasis on the vows every officer must take as he/she is ordained and/or installed. It rightly places the responsibility for determining fitness for office on the examining governing body.

This landing page will be a clearing house for a number of important resources and tools to enable folks from across our church to participate in activities and events targeted at creating real dialogue, discussion, and discernment.


Resources

MLP National Board Statement: Answering God's Call To Serve

Link to the PCUSA booklet of proposed amendments
The revisions to G-6.0106b, as approved by the 218th General Assembly, appear on page 3 of 48.

Guidelines for Communal Discernment
by Reverend Victoria G. Curtiss with an introduction by Linda Bryant Valentine and Clifton Kirkpatrick

Presbyterian Understanding and Use of Holy Scripture + Biblical Authority and Interpretation
The Office of Theology and Worship, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)

Resources for Fostering Community and Dialogue
The Theological Task Force on Peace, Unity, and Purity of the Church, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)

Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality: Explode the Myths, Heal the Church
by former Moderator Jack Rogers. Free study guide available (here).

A Time to Embrace: Same-Gender Relationships in Religion, Law, and Politics
by Princeton Theological Seminary Professor William Stacy Johnson. Free study guide (here).

Anyone and Everyone (DVD). Free discussion guide (here).

For the Bible Tells Me So (DVD). Free study guides available (here).
 

So how can you help?

Here are a few ideas:

Help organize educational events in your Presbytery. For example you could organize a showing of "Anyone and Everyone" or "For the Bible Tells Me So," with discussion and fellowship afterwards. A four week or six week study group of Jesus, the Bible and Homosexuality or A Time to Embrace would also help facilitate the process of discernment.

Host a house party to show one of these DVDs or a book club to discuss one of these books.

Write an essay about why the PCUSA should vote in favor of Ordination Amendment 08-B and post it on your blog, website, or Facebook page -- and send it to us!

We also need volunteers to help get out the vote. Send me an e-mail (toby@mlp.org) and let me know which Presbytery you are in, when your Presbytery will be voting, and how to reach you.



FAQ on Ordination Amendment 08-B

1. What does the revised text actually say?

By a vote of 54% to 46% the 218th GA sends to the presbyteries the following amendment to the Form of Government:

To replace the present text of G-6-0106b with this:

G-6.0106b. Those who are called to ordained service in the church, by their assent to the constitutional questions for ordination and installation (W-4.4003) pledge themselves to live lives obedient to Jesus Christ the Head of the Church, striving to follow where he leads through the witness of the Scriptures, and to understand the Scriptures through the instruction of the Confessions. In so doing, they declare their fidelity to the standards of the Church. Each governing body charged with examination for ordination and/or installation (G-14.0240 and G-14.0450) establishes the candidate's sincere efforts to adhere to these standards.

2. Why is this text better than the paragraph it replaces?

This revision better reflects our Presbyterian traditions. This amendment restores constitutional language to the standards for ordination. It places its emphasis on the vows every officer must take as he/she is ordained and/or installed. It rightly places the responsibility for determining fitness for office on the examining governing body.

This revision is better theologically. The revised text puts the focus exactly where it should be – on Jesus, the Scriptures, and the Confessions – the essential values at the center of our theological tradition. Since all of us, all the time, sin and fall short of God's glory, it should remain with the governing and the electing bodies to make the judgment with grace and faithfulness to Scripture and the Constitution, of any potential officer's character and gifts for office.

This revision therefore represents a higher standard for ordained office, since it broadly includes all aspects of character and qualification for candidates for the offices of Deacon, Elder, and Minister of Word and Sacrament.

3. How might this amendment bring the church together again?

This amendment represents a compromise that restores traditional Reformed understandings of ordination standards that should be acceptable to most Presbyterians. Properly understood, this amendment should enable our church to lay aside our conflicts and to move forward in mission and growth.

4. When will this vote take place?

Each presbytery will vote on the Amendment 08-B according to a schedule determined by the Council of that presbytery. The 218th General Assembly strongly encouraged every presbytery to develop a process of discernment and prayer before any vote is taken. The Stated Clerk of the PCUSA has asked that all votes by taken by mid-May, 2009, so that printing of the Book of Order may proceed in a timely fashion. Contact your Stated Clerk or Council to find out what the schedule is. Try to encourage a reconciling process and a secret ballot on the amendment at a meeting most convenient for elder commissioners.

5. Will churches and presbyteries still be able to elect the officers they want?

Yes. In the Reformed tradition the election of church officers, Deacons, Elders and Ministers of Word and Sacrament, belongs to the body in which they will serve. The examination of those elected must be carried out by the governing body that has responsibility for election. No church officer may be placed in a permanent position without the consent of the people.

6. How can this process be made more reconciling and positive?

The 218th General Assembly strongly encouraged all presbyteries to develop a process for prayer and discernment leading to this vote. To help your presbytery prepare for a constructive, reconciling and positive ratification, see the resources listed above.


Volunteer to help ratify Amendment 08-B in your Presbytery!

Send an e-mail to our new Associate Director, Toby Rogers: toby@mlp.org. Kindly include your name, contact info, and which Presbytery you are in. We're looking forward to hearing from you!

 

 

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Some blogs worth visiting

PVJ's Facebook page

Mitch Trigger, PVJ's Secretary/Communicator, has created a Facebook page where Witherspoon members and others can gather to exchange news and views. Mitch and a few others have posted bits of news, both personal and organizational. But there’s room for more!

You can post your own news and views, or initiate a conversation about a topic of interest to you.

 

Voices of Sophia blog

Heather Reichgott, who has created this new blog for Voices of Sophia, introduces it:

After fifteen years of scholarship and activism, Voices of Sophia presents a blog. Here, we present the voices of feminist theologians of all stripes: scholars, clergy, students, exiles, missionaries, workers, thinkers, artists, lovers and devotees, from many parts of the world, all children of the God in whose image women are made. .... This blog seeks to glorify God through prayer, work, art, and intellectual reflection. Through articles and ensuing discussion we hope to become an active and thoughtful community.

 

John Harris’ Summit to Shore blogspot

Theological and philosophical reflections on everything between summit to shore, including kayaking, climbing, religion, spirituality, philosophy, theology, politics, culture, travel, The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), New York City and the Queens neighborhood of Ridgewood by a progressive New York City Presbyterian Pastor. John is a former member of the Witherspoon board, and is designated pastor of North Presbyterian Church in Flushing, NY.

 

John Shuck’s Shuck and Jive

A Presbyterian minister, currently serving as pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Elizabethton, Tenn., blogs about spirituality, culture, religion (both organized and disorganized), life, evolution, literature, Jesus, and lightening up.

 

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